By Dianne Lipson
Dani’s testimony on May 29, finally veered to her confinement in a room. It was late in the day.
Dani testified that after she went to meet Keith to apologize to him, and failed to apologize, it was now clear to Keith that she was in desperate need of punishment. He wanted her to go into a room and heal her ethical breach. She was to have a paper and pen and nothing else.
“If you don’t do that, and you go back to Mexico,” Keith told her, “you will lose your family.”
She wanted to know how long she would have to go into the room. She was told “as long as it takes.”
Dani said no. She was not going in that room. But it was soon clear that her parents were on board with it. And once it was clear her parents were on board, at that point – she had nothing else except her parents, she had nothing, no one, no reason to keep on living, other than her relationship with her parents —
At this point, Daniela is getting more emotional on the stand than we have seen her before. She’s always been very rational. But now she’s getting emotional.
Daniela did not want to go in the room. But then that night, she got out of the house [she could not leave the house without permission]. She got out and called Ben Myers from a payphone. She wanted him to get her out of there, but Ben did not pick up the phone.
The next day Dani realized she had no choice. Dani kept trying to convince everyone that it was not necessary that she be confined to her room. But nobody listened. So she was ordered by Keith – with the full support of her parents – to be confined to a second floor bedroom at her parent’s home at 12 Wilton [In Knox Woods – a few blocks from Keith’s home on Flintlock and his sex lair at 8 Hale].
Dani was asked by Moira Penza about the room. She said it was a room with four walls. A door to the downstairs, a door to the bathroom, a foam mattress and windows that were papered up so she couldn’t see outside. Nothing else in the room.
The clothes on her back were the only clothes she had. She had to wash the clothes in the adjoining bathroom.
Sometimes there was whole months when she would see nobody, no other living person.
Only Lauren Salzman was allowed to visit. Lauren was assigned to be the person to come and check on her. And Dani said three months went by where she didn’t see anybody.
Dani did get three meals a day. The meals were brought to her [prepared by her family]. They put the meals on a plate outside her room. They would knock on the door then leave. She didn’t see anybody.
In her lonely room, she would put her ear up against the door to try to catch the sound of voices, just to hear something.
Sometimes the meals were late. Dani, with nothing else to do all day, became food obsessed. She spent her time wondering what the next meal would be, waiting for the next meal. She would have incredible joy or deep disappointment based on whether the meal met her expectations. She spent hours dreaming about what her next meal might be.
She was going crazy. She had nothing to do but stay in a room and write on her paper.
Dani said in court, “I think I went crazy.”
Moira Penza asked, “What was your state of mind?”
Dani started describing it: She lost perception of things. She became numb. She started making routines so she wouldn’t go crazy. She would look at the shampoo or a package of food that had writing on it, because she needed to see the words. In her head, she would imagine going outside and tried to think about every detail of going outside. Sometimes she would just lose it. When she lost control of herself, she started laying on the floor and scratching her arms. She wanting to scream but she wasn’t allowed to.
There were a lot of hours in the day. And at this time she hated Lauren, Lauren, who didn’t come to see her. She hated her. Lauren was mean to her and she hated her more and more. But when Lauren finally did come, the lonely girl had such an intense feeling that she loved her, and again and again she asked, she begged Lauren to be able to leave.
But Keith would not allow it. She had not yet healed her ethical breach.
In her room, alone, Dani took down the paper from the window and looked out. She would watch the rabbits and birds – it was her only entertainment. That and creeping up against the door, straining to hear the sounds of her family speaking.
She wanted out. She had her paper and pen. She was trying to find “the right combination of words to fix this ethical breach.” She wrote love letters to Keith. Nothing worked.
At one point, Dani decided to cut her own hair. She wasn’t allowed to do that. Keith had told her to never cut her hair. He liked it long, but she did it anyway. In her room. This was something Dani could control. She could cut her own hair.
On Lauren’s next visit, this was a major problem. This hair cutting in and of itself was another huge ethical breach. Lauren told her now that she was farther away than ever from leaving the room.
The only way to fix this huge ethical breach of her cutting her own hair, was to stay in the room till her hair grew back to where it was. Dani was crestfallen. She thought about how many years it took her to grow her hair that long. It was going to take years for her hair to grow back, more years in the room.
All through it, the monsters, Lauren and Keith, kept telling her that she is not healing her breach. They told Dani [through Lauren] that she was supposed to want to be in the room, to want to be confined to heal her breaches.
That’s why Dani wrote, she testified, a note that she wanted to be in the room.
While Dani testified that she was alone, that she felt she was going crazy, she felt impotent. Nothing made any sense to her – during this testimony, Keith was looking at Daniella, emotionless.
One day, when Dani was straining to hear talk downstairs, she heard them discuss installing a camera to monitor her. Then another day, when Daniela knew nobody was home, she sneaked out of her room and stepped out of the front door to walk around, but he came back before anybody returned.
Another time she sneaked out and stole a couple of books and brought them to her room. She read them over and over again. But she eventually confessed to that. Another huge breach.
As she is testifying to this, Dani is getting more emotional. Then one fateful day, she went downstairs and managed to access her email account. She had been in the room for well over a year.
She checked her email account and except for a year-old birthday message from Ben, nobody wrote to her. Not in an entire year. She felt like nobody wrote to her. Nobody missed her. She was gone from the world and nobody noticed. She cried in her room for days and days. It became harder and harder. She was listening only to her own voices; she was losing her sense of herself.
Dani testified, trying to maintain her composure – amid a courtroom deeply affected. Some were holding back tears, some were silently crying for her.
Dani said, in these circumstance she was, she knew, becoming crazy, she was losing control of her mind.
Penza asked, “How would you describe how that felt?”
Dani paused. Then she said “It’s hard to explain. Like nothing makes sense. Nothing. There was a nothingness.” She said she was second guessing all her thoughts. She had the awareness that “nobody cares about me.” She was a monster. “My mother didn’t come.” Her thoughts were “somebody come get me out.” This is where she’s crying and sobbing, when she said. “Somebody come get me.”
She was crying kn court. And this person that so far was not crying, she is now sobbing as she told the jury her thoughts at the time, “Please let me, Oh, somebody please get me out. Come save me, but nobody cared. Nobody cared. Nobody cares that I’m losing my life.”
Keith was looking at her when she said this. While the entire courtroom was sympathetic, some in tears or nearly in tears, how did the monster react? Did he have any reaction? There was no reaction. He just stared at her. He turned for a moment to look at the spectators, dispassionately, then turned back to stare at Dani.
One day, Dani made a decision. There was a specific moment. It was a day like all her other days, but this day she made the decision that she wanted to end her life. She looked out the window and saw a red bird. She had seen this bird from her window and the bird left and then it returned. When Dani saw the bird return, something changed. Now she wanted to live. She had a sense of freedom. She wanted to live like everybody else. She didn’t care about her family anymore.
“All I wanted to do was live,” she said.
She wanted to tell Keith. She left the room. She walked out of the house and walked over to where Keith and the others were playing volleyball.
She arrived and the look on everybody’s face was astonishment. It was as if a grave had opened. When Keith saw her, the coward ran and hid. He hid from her.
A group of Nxivm members seeing his fear rushed to grab Dani and escorted her outside.
And that’s where her testimony ended this day. Dani will resume her testimony on May 30.
79 commentsOn Dani’s Incredible, Horrifying, Emotional Story of Being Confined in a Room for Two Years
And now VanFraud deserves to be confined to a jail cell for years.
I had a look online at the facility where the criminal is currently being held. It’s a lot nicer than he deserves. Once convicted, he should be placed in the general prison population, who will give him the justice that they reserve for child sexual abusers and child rapists.
MDC is one of the worst places to be held, although I agree it is a lot nicer than Raniere deserves: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Detention_Center,_Brooklyn
Keith a complete coward running and hiding from this abused broken woman.
Everyone on that volleyball court should have witnessed Dani testify yesterday.
Keith a true psychopath with no emotions.
I’m sick to my stomach reading these accounts.
This confirms my feelings about Lauren Salzman. She is another psychopath crying crocodile tears to save her ass.
I’m hope Judge Garafus has seen Lauren’s testimony as an attempt lighten her sentence. She deserves 2 years in prison for starters to cover the two years taken from Dani. Then I would pile on the max sentence for the other charges and bring her up on more charges in the NDNY. MAY SHE BE AN OLD WOMAN AND PENNILESS WHEN SHE EMERGES FROM A FEDERAL PRISON ALONG WITH HER EVIL MOTHER!I
Dani’s parents also should be prosecuted for their crimes against their four children.
Screw this trial. It is for some good old fashioned vigilante justice.
Good old fashioned vigilante justice will probably occur in prison after the trial.
That is one of the most demented, satanical, most deeply evil treatments one could inflict on a human being. Dani should be asked what she wanted society to do with her parents. Her wish should be followed exactly, including killing them if she so wishes. As for our dearest most cancerous psychopath Keith… I am sure a committee can be formed to determine some form of medieval torture to demonstrate to him there are human beings out there that make him look like a kindergarden first grader when it comes to inflicting evil acts on other parties.
The description of his reaction was mindnumbing…. Evil personified then and there… The audience did not have to go to a horror movie… the protagonist was there in flesh and blood…. Satan personified…
Lauren?? I am thoroughly shocked at what Dani had to go through. I haven’t read a single horror novel for wanting to avoid nightmares. This is the closest I’ve ever come across to reading this genre. Lauren’s credentials have been exploded not into tatters but into microscopic pieces. In a normal society, Lauren’s testimony should be used as initially agreed with the prosecution, thereafter all that was promised/offered to her should be reneged and she should be tried and thrown in jail in solitary confinement for the first 4 years of her stay. That should teach her how it feels to be let down and peed upon!!!!!!!!!
I could not possibly imagine destroying an innocent soul. Why? What has Dani ever possibly done wrong? Why did she not have the right to live?? Extremely shocking……………………………… to say the very least…. This is so far fetched….
I feel such anger and HATRED toward raniere, lauren, and this girls parents. Not to mention the cowardly sack of sh*t that is Lauren’s bro-in-law. I hope all of them have the most miserable, tortuous existences possible, they have certainly EARNED it. How do these scumbags live with themselves?
Good Luck Dani may you go on to have a beautiful life, with children of your own, pobrecita, so sorry for what they did to you..
The mfer can’t run and hide now.
How can anyone that still supports Keith listen to or read Dani’s testimony and still support this monster?? If any harem members exist, they must know that this could easily have happened to them for the slightest “ethical breach.” I have so much anger toward Keith right now, more than I have ever had. Lauren may have taken a plea deal, but I sure hope she gets more than a couple of years. She’s a monster, too.
I wonder what Nickvi Pea Pee knew. Everything, probably.
On that note – how closely do you think the co-op defendants are monitoring the testimonies? Obvs their lawyers are but do you think Lauren, Allie, Nancy and the rest are reading the daily accounts or avoiding it? Lauren became so emotional talking about Dani that I would think she’d not want to read her testimony.
Dani’s getting emotional about reliving her two year long ordeal.
Does Judge Garaufis show any mercy towards Dani for her torment?
Judge Garaufis is all heart for the rotten, reprehensible demonic rat Lauren Salzman who tortured Dani for almost two years.
Oh, Marc Agnifilo is bringing Lauren Salzman to the brink of a nervous breakdown after five hours of cross examination.
After Lauren Salzman has led a TWENTY YEAR LIFE OF CRIME.
Well Judge Garaufis, what about this young Mexican woman Dani who was subjected to confinement for almost two years?
Don’t you care about Dani’s mental health?
Isn’t Dani on the brink of a nervous breakdown over her two year long ordeal at the hands of the Salzman crime family?
Judge Nicholas Garaufis has a clear double standard here.
Judge Garaufis is a typical appointee of the RAPIST Bill Clinton.
Forget the victims.
Have mercy on perpetrators like Lauren Salzman, Nancy Salzman, Clare Bronfman and Allison Mack.
Calm yourself. The judge intervened when Lauren broke down under cross examination, because Keith’s lawyer was bullying her. He didn’t intervene because she started crying. If the same lawyer pulls the same b.s. against Dani, and the judge allows it to go on, then you can make your point.
Until then, take a breath.
You want the judge to stop the direct questioning from the DOJ?
Get a life…first it’s about Lauren , then you had to bring Allison …just shut up old man.
How do you know what the judge is feeling now?!
Oh and stop bringing thing you Don’t understand like politics…or words.
I think it’s more that Lauren was really on the brink of a nervous breakdown, where Dani has been keeping it together. She broke down but not nearly to the degree as Lauren. Garaufis was making a decision based on what was happening in court. Agnifilo and Raniere were badgering Lauren. From what has been reported so far, that has not yet happened with Dani.
That occured during Lauren’s Cross examination.
We don’t yet know what happened during Dani’s cross examination because as far as I know, it hasn’t happened yet.
But I’m sure if Dani gets to that point, Garaufis will do the same thing.
I wouldn’t bet on that, unless Agnifilo wants to build up his appeals case. But he’s already been warned by the judge, so he probably can’t go as far as he did against Salzman. Dani is not a fellow defendant, so there is less need to go for the sympathy angle like he did with Salzman. Dani was never in the grip that Salzman was and he risks revealing more dirt on Raniere if he pushes her hard.
It’s amazing how cruel people could be in this cult of enlightenment. Lauren – who always had such a fake-ness about her in relation to being compassionate is stupid, evil, and cruel. Much like her mother. I would love for people to weigh in who were in the course or orange sash and above and why they allowed this all to happen.
Share more please “Lauren and company.”
Every entry I read leaves me more and more incredulous that this sick twisted evil could exist in the world…let alone in a suburb of Albany, NY. Lauren Salzman and everyone in that inner circle should be locked up and forgotten about.
Every post I read leaves me more and more incredulous that this sick and twisted evil can exist in this would let alone in a suburb of Albany NY. Lauren Salzman and the inner circle ALL need to be locked up and forgotten about. Preferably in solitary.
Thank God that someone had the balls to round this SCUM up and get them locked away from society.
It was not just a sex cult. It was also a torture cult, where the act of causing another to suffer brought satisfaction to the perpetrator. This was not punishment. It was torture inflicted for its own sake, for pleasure. The punishment angle was just an excuse. Would they have stopped short of killing someone? I don’t think. Did Raniere have at least one person killed? He said that he did, and I believe him. He must never be released.
Dani, you are an absolute hero. What an extraordinary story of survival! I hope you feel covered by a million blankets of love and compassion from the whole world. You matter. Your story, your character – it matters in this world. You are invisible no more. You are already changing the world.#inspiredbyyou
Thank you for saying that. I bet they all read Frank Report.
While waiting for Village Dianne Lipson to file, here’s the Albany Times-Union on Dani’s confinement
I just hope that Dani can heal and recover from the horrendous abuse she endured at the hands of the NXIVM crime syndicate. There are many people who perpetrated the abuse not just Raniere and Salzman. Her parents are just as culpable as Raniere and Salzman, as are the rest of the top two tiers of Raniere’s criminal pyramid scheme. By that I mean Bronfman, Mack and the rest. They all knew, and they all agreed with what was being done to Dani. It is a testament to Dani’s resilient spirit, that they never quite managed to break her. In the end, her good character defeated them.
The first thing that comes to mind with each installment is “Holy Crap” and then total gut wrenching empathy for this woman. It just gets worse and worse. It is nearly unfathomable.
Another well written detailed piece. I wondered as Dianne was describing the pained emotional expressions of the room, what the jurors were doing? Were they teared up too?
Side note, I very much enjoyed Omar’s article and the legal dialogue of the comments. Very compelling.
Isolating is similar to how Scientology shuns people, called “disconnection.” Everybody in Scientology is told to never communicate in any manner with the person who isn’t “all in” again. See Tony Ortega’s website and see the very partial list of these people in about the mid-point of this page: https://tonyortega.org/2019/05/30/scientologys-slick-new-freewinds-magazine-surprisingly-makes-no-mention-of-measles/ By the way, as a former Naval Officer, I’ve always found Scientology wearing uniforms identical to the ones worn by real Navy people to be quite disgusting.
When I asked to be taken off “standing order (automatic ordering)” for the Amway tools, I was also shunned, even though I didn’t complain about anything. Not that I minded, I had just found out the upper scum layer of distributors made far more from the meeting tickets, books, audio/video recordings, website access, voice mail, etc., than the Amway business being promoted. Amway corporate is in on the scam as well.
Dropping some knowledge!
Wow! it’s been a while since you shared some insightful information. Sincerely thank you! Seriously.
Now if you could just apologize to all of the women you have made misogynist comments to on the Frankreport we could hold hands have a beer, and sit Indian style around a campfire singing kumbaya.
Niceguy wants an apology about misogynistic comments, even though he’s the guy whose wife WEARS THE PANTS in the household. LOL.
I’m guessing that wifey keeps you on a short leash and a small expense account, Mr. Mom.
Now go wash the car and pick up wifey’s clothes from the dry cleaners.
LOL Bangkok Johnson
I have to agree with myself on that one.
Holding hands? A beer? Sitting Indian style around a campfire? Singing Kumbaya? You won’t even pick up the phone. LOL
My comments are factual, it’s not my problem the snowflakes melt.
“The job of the strong is to protect the weak.”
“The job of the strong is to help the weak become stronger.” Unless of course you’re a Dem/Libtard.
Thanks, Scott…these words epitomize Trump’s MAGA-mantra…the words he lives and governs by.
I guess what we really need is SOP (Society of Protectors), right niceguy? LOL
That last jab about Society of Protectors is a good one I will have to admit Scott.
He ran and hid? I would have thought he’d be furious. But no. He got scared. He is nothing but a pile of shit coward.
Raniere is more like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI4hzzepEcI
we needed comic relief ;0….ndny doing nothing and nxivm perpetuating itself unabated is so fucking depressing at this moment
How often she has gazed from castle windows all
And watched the daylight passing within her captive wall
With no one to heed her call
The evening hour is fading within the dwindling sun
And in a lonely moment, those embers will be gone
And the last of all the young birds flown
Her days of precious freedom, forfeited long before
To live such fruitless years behind a guarded door
But those days will last no more
Tomorrow, at this hour, she will be far away
Much farther than these islands, for the lonely Fotheringay
Fotheringay by Fairport Convention.
Dani is a true HERO.
She endured WAY more than any human being should, and kept her wits about her.
Dani is way more of a hero than Frank is.
To compare Dani’s level of bravery to Frank’s is like comparing a combat soldier to a coward who goes AWOL and shits his pants at the first sign of trouble.
If memory serves, I think Frank was either a buddy or co-worker of Jim Del Negro many yeas ago.
What does that say about Frank’s character?
If Frank was an associate and/or friend of Jim Del Negro — even many years ago — he was basically associating with a heathen and a godless monster.
I think it possibly means that Frank is a heathen too.
What separates Frank from heathens like Jim Del Negro? Somebody tell me.
When did Frank finally split from Jim Del Negro? I want dates. I want times. I want data. Was it before or after Clare and Keith turned on Frank?
What separates Frank from the NXIVM heathens is the amount of time he stayed with NXIVM, the reason he left, what he did while he was there, and what he did after he left. We don’t know what Frank knew about Del Negro. You need to STFU, get off your high horse, and fly straight.
She may not have been locked in that room, but there was nowhere for her to go. She was isolated in that community, that suburban prison. The Nxian cultists were all supporting Raniere in his twisted plot to break this young woman, they deliberately left her friendless, with nobody to appeal to, nobody willing to help. Not a speck of human decency from any of them.
Every member to that Nxium community bears responsibility for this. They are all complicit, every single one of them. For those who pleaded guilty to their felonies, this should have a significant bearing on their prison sentences. If they had hopes of getting off with the lighter end of the sentencing guidelines, that hope has evaporated with this poignant testimony. They are not just criminals, they are particularly brutal criminals. Every one of them.
“Abandon all hope, ye who enter here”. That’s what it says at the entrance to Dante’s vision of Hell. As judge Garafulis sits listening to this testimony, quietly seething inside, know that he will remember all this come September when the day of sentencing arrives. So abandon all hope, Nancy, Clare, Allison, and the rest of them. Because you are going to pay the price of your cruelty and indifference. Wake up screaming every night, as the days tick down and the jaws of the prison gates yawn open for you.
I wouldn’t count on long prison sentences, the judge is quite the softy lib.
When you started with “every member to that Nxivm Community…” i knew you would stupidly bring her…
You are a moron, Allison was not living in the Community when this happened…Dani isn’t even citing her in the inner circle.
The confinement is supposed to have happened between 2010 and 2012…Allison was still living in Brooklyn height back then.
Stick to the fact.
Stop being a Shadowstate 1.5
I agree, there was too much compartalization going to to blame everyone in NXIVM equally for everything that happened. However, the Feds have plenty of documents and people from the inside testifying to overcome who knew what in many cases.
Welcome to the evilest episode of the Twilight Zone….
When Dani showed up at the Volleyball game…
….What an incredible creepy Steven King moment that must have been.
Keith walks off and the people at the court rush to grab her. I can’t even believe what I am reading it all seems so crazy.
Dani must have felt like the whole world had gone crazy and was closing in on her.
Now we all know how culpable most if not all of the inner Nxivm members were.
This story about Dani at the volleyball game….
…..And the other story that Barbara Bouchey shared about Dani’s underage sister making out with Raniere in full view of everyone…..
…..Sheds a bright light on all the other NXIVM inner members. All the upper level NXIVM members have been illuminated as the evil sniveling spineless cowards that they are.
The higher inner Nxivm members cannot claim ignorance anymore.
They all knew and they all saw a young woman held in a room and her younger sister having some form of sexual relations with Keith Raniere.
After reading this article I personally hope that all the higher up NXIVM members rot in hell.
Yes, they are almost as big of a sniveling spineless cowards as the “niceguy” who said he would come on my radio show and then chickened out. LOL
Village Diane Lipson,
Your retelling of today’s courtroom testimony is riveting, unfortunately it is such dark subject matter.
What the ACTUAL fuck….Dani is to be praised for her strength and tenacity. And for her post-trauma grasp of the deplorable situation these degenerates put her in. (All in the name of ethics…?!)
Thank god for her and her sanity…although they tried to steal even that from this woman. So much insight on all the other working parts of this disgusting disaster after hearing from Dani.
I hope Raniere scratches his arms off in prison.
What a whiny-baby, needy LOSER. And now everyone finally knows. Goose is fuckin cooked son.
(Also, I think it’d be great if Dani showed up to court with short hair suddenly – just as an “eff you I can do what I want bitch” message to Keith. But save that for the movie.)
all that long hair is just a way to maintain control over women but it is obvious that he played that letter with those who already had it long, if all his women had to have it long, because Allison, Nicky, Lauren, Nancy , Mariana and many others kept it short or used it generally short, what I think is that he played the “do not cut your hair, do it for me” and wings that they liked to have it short I would say “you are a woman” more spiritual, you are not a slave to vanity “or something like that.
Captain – Dani doesn’t need to cut her hair. She has now regrown it and has become the slim, lovely woman that Raniere craves. The fact that he can never have her, and probably will never have any woman ever again, will anger and frustrate him for the rest of his miserable years.
Good point, I wonder if Dani went on a diet just to rub it into Raniere during the trial.
Perhaps Raniere should think about getting on the Jesus train: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2019/05/pastor-who-repeatedly-raped-daughter-14-gets-light-sentence-because-jesus/
Gee and just last week the sympathy was for broken Lauren. And before that Mack.
It wasn’t brainwashing bs nlp. They had the opportunity to have power and control over others and they enjoyed being cruel. Not one offered to help in the least. At least she occasionally showed some independence by breaking the “rules”. Too bad she didn’t just walk at her first thought that he wasn’t anything special. Too bad she didn’t realize how many are here illegally and can make a good life without worry and fear.
She was/is smart but being confined in that community kept her perpetually 16 and scared of trouble, being bad, being a bad girl. Two years. She could have been gone like the wind, working as an au pair for some non NX politician.
How was she going to do that? She didn’t have any money. Was she going to walk around Albany as a homeless person? In her one set of clothes she’d just get “discovered” on the side of the road buy some politician who happens to need a nanny? She’s in a foreign country! She didn’t have papers, and the her entire family believed Keith and believed what he said. They were locking their house! Chaining their refrigerator! She didn’t have a car or any way to get away or any kind of support at all! She tried calling Ben. She had no one at all to say to her–You’re right. You need to get away. She had zero confirmation that she was right and everyone else was wrong. She had limited to no access to internet, phone… anything in the outside world. Can you really blame her for doubting herself when every single person around her– everything she had known since being in this country at 16 years old were all treating her the same way? Every person in her family! 3 siblings and her parents. I think it’s miraculous that she had the strength of spirit to get out of there at all without killing herself. She’s incredible. She’s what Keith could never be.
My thoughts exactly.
It’s what she eventually did and succeeded. Too often comments are seen as insulting when if you don’t let emotion blur what is written you’ll see my admiration for her. My intent was not to insult or criticize her.
The indoctrination, while she fought it well was too much to really realize the reality. Yes she could have been gone much sooner. Being here illegally is not as dangerous as she feared. There are good people that would have helped..like the woman she met in Mexico that got her her birth certificate.
Our cities and towns are filled with people here illegally and they get jobs and shelter and build lives
I wasn’t putting her down. It’s heart breaking she endured so much when though it may have been scary it took nothing more than walking into the night.
She did just that in Mexico years later.
Mary – Well said.
Did I miss something, or was no one charged with kidnapping?
Forced confinement is a form of kidnapping and KAR and many “insiders” participated.
What they all did to Dani is despicable. and criminal.
I have been asking myself that same question.
You missed something. It obviously didn’t meet all of the elements of kidnapping.
It is despicable and criminal but unfortunately, it’s not completly a kidnapping…
She had the “Freedom” to leave her room…Because of this , they can’t punish (while they deserve it) the culprit (Keith, The parents and to a certain level Lauren).
But if i remember well the charges ,there is a charge referring to the confinement. (sadly, i doubt it will punish him at the level deserved)
To further define the “Freedom” you mentioned, she was very young and therefore inexperienced, knew nobody who was on her side, was in the country illegally, and had no money. Other than that, she was “free” to leave. I believe it would have been easier to leave if none of the above were true and she had to break a lock to escape.
Dani displayed more backbone than Allison, Lauren, Clare,Sara, Nancy and all the other NXIVM women put together.
This is horrific. I would love a post on how the Mexican press and former/current Mexican NXIVM members are responding to this.
keith might need those kneepads in prison soon.
“For many people, kidnapping is assumed to be a crime with the same penalties for every case. In fact, there are many different definitions and classifications of kidnapping.
The danger of the public perception of kidnapping is that it limits the scope of what the New York statues defines it as. New York Code§ 135.00 covers all forms of unlawful imprisonment, kidnapping and custodial interference. Unlawful imprisonment, under codes § 135.05 and § 135.10, can be charged as a Class E felony. Unlawful imprisonment in the second degree—which is considered to be a Class A misdemeanor—is defined as the unlawful imprisonment of another by restraining them from leaving and/or depriving them of their liberty to leave.”
I have such admiration for this young woman. The way she created her sketches, her newspaper and dealt with her struggle and despair so constructively.
And a deepening contempt for Lauren, her brother-in-law, and her artist sister, who like Dani, sketched women in despair, only with Michelle, the women are mostly struggling- to get their clothing off over their heads.
“NXIVM captive created her own newspaper while held for over two years.”
And her newspaper had a larger readership than the Knife Media.
I felt like my heart was breaking when I read this, last night. I have nothing but admiration for Dani. She may not believe that she can change the world but she has made an incredible impact nonetheless
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