Dani Testifies: Nude Photos of Underage Cami Can Be Dated Based on Scar She Got at Age 16

In General

By Dianne Lipson

Daniela [or Dani] resumed her testimony on the morning of May 28, in the trial of Keith Alan Raniere.

She was wearing a white blazer with big brown buttons. Underneath she wore a white shirt. She wore black pants.

Keith was dressed in a gray sweater with a white dress shirt.

The first thing Dani was asked about was regarding her younger sister, Cami, and a medical issue she had undergone.

It turns out that Camilia got appendicitis when she was 16.  The operation left a large, permanent scar.

This was put into evidence to establish that if a nude picture of Cami was taken without her scar, it would evidence that she was less than 16 years old when that nude photo was taken.

It is alleged that Raniere took nudes of Cami when she was 15. [The age of consent in New York is 17].

The nude photos, it is believed, taken of Cami by Raniere do not have the appendicitis scar she has had since she was 16.  [It was expected that the defense might try to obfuscate the date the pictures of Cami were taken by casting doubt about the computer dates. But the scar is telltale and as they say in Mexico, “Adios Raniere.”]

Following this bombshell revelation, there was testimony about the status of Dani’s younger siblings, Camilla, and Adrian – who are Mexican nationals, who came to live in Albany as teens to be mentored by Raniere. They were often – via Raniere’s direction – here illegally.

There were emails admitted into evidence from an immigration lawyer working for Nxivm, who was working on the immigration status of Adrian and Camilla.  The lawyer advised Nxivm that the teens had to leave the US and then come back to cement their legal status.

The lawyer said that unless they leave and then come back, they’ll be a legal problem; that these teens  should make plans to leave in order to come back. That they must leave and reapply; the longer they’re in the United States “out of status,” the more difficult it will be for them to return.

The lawyer also advised in the emails that he did not think political connections would help Cami and Adrian cure their illegal status. That they really need to leave first. And political connections would not substitute for obeying immigration laws.

{This advice was of course ignored by Raniere].

Daniela testified that she heard a lot of talk of political connections. She testified earlier that she had come in illegally to the United States [She came with fake ID provided to her by Kathy Russell and arranged for by Keith] and this was frequently held over Dani’s head.

When Daniella wasn’t doing well in her program, or not doing what she was supposed to do,  or when she was receiving active discipline, this was often brought up.

The next topic for Dani was the day to day routine at Flintlock [where Keith lived with several women and where Dani would go to be with him].

Keith was often on the phone talking about the stock market [actually more likely the commodities market] with Yuri Plyam [who readers know was the commodities market broker than handled Keith’s ‘investments’. Keith lost more than $68 million of other people’s money – mainly Clare and Sara Bronfman’s money]

These were friendly conversations with Yuri.  Indeed Dani would hear Keith openly talk to Yuri about more than investments. They would talk on the phone about sexual topics and Keith’s disciplining his women. They were long conversations regarding discipline.  Often the discipline of other women for Keith would be enacted by Lauren Salzman, Pam Cafrtiz or Nancy Salzman.

Daniela said that Kristin, who lived at Flintlock with Keith at that time [she later defected and provided crucial information that helped take down the monster] would come down in the mornings and talk about legal issues with Keith.

Daniela was recording many of Keith daily utterances.  However, she was not allowed to record when Kristin and Keith discussed anything legal.

Keith’s legal conversations were mainly with Kristin, although he sometimes spoke about this with Nancy. There were groups of lawyers that Nxivm retained and sometimes the conversations were about gaining political favors.

Many conversations seemed to be about hiring private detectives. Keith wanted to get access to people’s emails and records.  There was much discussion about how much this would cost. Keith was the ultimate decider as to who should be investigated.

Kristin did the work, Dani testified. Keith never went in the field to do things himself.  The reason was that the focus was on protecting Keith. Kristin was supportive of protecting Keith [at the time] and Kristin was ready to “take the fall for Keith,” Dani testified.

Keith wanted access to Kristin Snyder’s email [Snyder disappeared in Feb. 2003 in Alaska after leaving a Nxivm intensive. Her cause of death is listed as presumptive suicide. Her body was never found].

Keith wanted to prove that Kristin Snyder was still alive.

The other main targets were Rick Ross, Toni Natalie and Joe O’Hara.

At one point, they were spending a great deal of money to get people’s email passwords.  Daniela had a discussion with Keith saying “why are we spending all this money it could be done cheaper.”

The upshot was that Daniela was now deployed to learn how to hack emails and computers.  Daniela felt conflicted about this. She knew it was unethical, illegal and wrong.

But Keith explained to her in a conversation that it was about good guys versus bad guys, good guys versus suppressives, that good guys have ethics, but suppressive have no ethics.

Keith explained, “Our purpose is to build a better world. In order to build this better world, we are going to do unethical things, ethically, to build a better world.”

Dani testified about the steps she took in order to make sure that what she was doing wouldn’t be detected. She was in the US illegally. She didn’t want to leave traces of herself. She had no car, no bank account, nothing with her name on it.  [If a police car passed her, she said, she would jump].

She described the steps in the process of targeting enemies’ emails with a key logger or embedded screenshot capturing software. Dani seems to have been a self taught hacker.

Many emails came into evidence which shows what Dani was doing, and regarding her research on becoming a hacker.

Dani testified she tried to hack Joe O’Hara’s emails but it never worked.  Keith came up with a plan.

This plan involved Kathy Russell being able to get somebody who worked for Joe to come to Nxivm [with his computer] and while the man was distracted, Daniela sneaked in and got access to his computer. She was able to successfully put spyware software on his computer and look at his emails.

[Ed. note: It is believed this man is James Loperfido, O’Hara’s accountant. He is expected to testify in this trial.]

Dani also testified how she hacked the email account of Edgar Bronfman Sr..  Dani’s job was to check all Bronfman’s emails. She had to sort out what was relevant and what wasn’t.

At some point, Dani was asked to hack her own sister, Mariana’s computer.

Mariana was having issues. She was throwing a big tantrum. There was a suspicion that Mariana was having a relationship with one of her ex boyfriends. Daniela successfully infected Mariana’s computer.

Daniela felt guilty about this, but thought she was helping Mariana with her issues.

Daniela testified that she felt bad at the times and but, as she testified, “Now I feel even worse.”

At one point, Keith thought he had a computer virus and Daniela had to scan his computer.  She found a group of files that was not in a visible place on the computer. These files were nude pictures of Nxivm women.  Daniela saw Nxivm member Monica Duran in those pictures. Dani hadn’t realized before that Monica Duran had slept with Keith.

Dani spoke to Keith about her concerns about these pictures; finding them was alarming.  She asked Keith to delete her own pictures.  She doesn’t know if Keith ever deleted her pictures.

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Her testimony continues today and it is expected that she will soon get to her period of imprisonment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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21 commentsOn Dani Testifies: Nude Photos of Underage Cami Can Be Dated Based on Scar She Got at Age 16

  • “At one point they were spending a great deal of money to get people’s email passwords.”

    Nancy Salzman plead guilty to illegally obtaining Rick Ross’s password.
    Does anyone believe this was the only computer hacking Prefect Nancy was involved in?
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    “This plan involved Kathy Russell being able to get somebody who worked for Joe to come to Nxivm [with his computer] and while the man was distracted, Daniela sneaked in and got access to his computer. She was able to successfully put the spyware software on this man;s computer and look at his emails”

    Message to Joe O’Hara and Rick Ross:
    Please investigate this testimony and see if you can file civil RICO law suits against NXIVM and its top members.

    Every top NXIVM defendant should face civil RICO law suits as well as the criminal indictments.
    Civil RICO lawsuits provide for treble damages as well as lawyer’s fees to the winning plaintiffs.

    Imagine all of the branded slaves suing for the physical and mental trauma they suffered at the hands of Raniere, Mack and Lauren Salzman.

  • This is so crazy. How far does this go? Terrible for the people involved.

  • Miss Bouche said they hacked into judges and lawyers emails also while speaking in NY on that panel.

  • NXIVM should be classified as terrorists in my opinion. Hacking into law makers private emails reminds me of the Russian fiasco. Maybe it was Keith this whole time. Roger Stone is innocent.

  • The world’s most damning appendectomy scar. Too bad she didn’t let Raniere heal her.

  • Does anyone know where Keith and company were in 2003 when miss Snyder disappeard. Do you think Keith killed her?

    • These are worthwhile questions. I do not think Keith was physically present in Alaska but the question remains: Did he have a hand in her disappearance, her murder or her suicide?

  • I keep seeing the same pattern over and over. These girls were being, literally, designed.

    KAR & Nancy Salzman (and whomever’s interest she served if not purely her own) were working off blueprints patterned on KAR’s earliest, YOUNGEST, conquests.

    The sister relationship, building sibling rivalries leading to self-hate and General misogyny is key.

  • Breaking: sisters Dani, Cami, and Mariana were all told to abort pregnancies by Raniere

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/michaelblackmon/nxivm-sex-cult-abortion-keith-raniere-sisters

  • Raniere claimed abortions were part of Olympic training

    “A few days after, we were on a walk. He told me that this was a great opportunity to lose weight and get fit. He said there are Olympic athletes who get pregnant as part of their training just to get abortions,” she said.

    https://nypost.com/2019/05/28/nxivm-leader-claimed-abortions-help-women-lose-weight-and-get-fit-witness/

    • Heidi Hutchinson

      I remember when Keith was training Pam Caffritz for the Olympics and the Freihoffer Woman’s races. He had her hitting the pavement every morning with a stopwatch clicking every minute starting at 6 AM on the click. Pam was regimented by Keith — who renewed her hope of fulfilling her girlhood Olympic dreams and curing her broken heart wrought by dictums of the evil patriarchy and parenthood wanting to marry her off instead of pursuing her independence. In retrospect, I believe KAR took Pam and her parents generous 20K monthly allowance to Pam — hostage, in the land of the misfit fuck toys.

      Pam moved in to the half-way house at #3 Flintlock drive, where diet and sleep allowances were restricted. She scheduled her time for sex with Keith, she was given wheat grass enemas more frequently than abortions — justified in one way or another — later, in the name of science and, as always, for the slave, be she consort or Olympic Goddess or Nazi reincarnate — for the slaves own empowermental good — to help with her need for weight control, in Pam’s case.

      Hope this rambling helps. It’s been hard for me to forgive Pam, lesser than for some in Gina’s case, but I still weep for Rhianon.

    • And I know one Olympic hopeful KAR trained born Pam Caffritz who underwent over a dozen abortion procedures along with a regimented diet, sleep depravation and scheduled sex with KAR to consistently maintain her ideal training weight. And who filled Raniere’s coffers with a 20K per month allowance her duped, DC socialite, DNC bought-in parents, handed over to Keith each month of her short life from then on. Her booty would become KAR’s 8M escape reserve and her body a cryogenic science experiment funded by billionaires, endorsed by almost Hollywood starlets…

      But who cares about the coffers and Mexican’s. Let’s hear about Kristin Kreuk and Allison Mack of comicon and Smallville.

  • Scars are Souvenirs You Never Lose

    –Following this bombshell revelation,

    There’s your irrefutable evidence NDNY.

    What you gonna do? What you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?

  • Dani is a star. Who plays her. She’s the lead.

  • Raniere’s fate is sealed……

    …..All from an appendectomy scar.

    The final nail in Vanguard’s coffin has been nailed down.

    Even if Vanguard appeals his fate is sealed. The scar time stamps the 15 or 16 year olds age. Vanguard cannot beat the child pornography charge. In addition, Raniere cannot beat the identity theft or tax evasion charges. RICO is falling on his head like an anvil falling from the sky.

    Thank God this trial is occurring in New York and not California.

    • what charge? child pornography charge NDNY ‘s is getting active ??? dont trust NYS at all they knew he was a child pervert since 2012 and hey its just business as usual in the PAY TO PLAY STATE

  • https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/nxivm-member-groomed-for-sex-keith-raniere-839739/

    What jars me most — RS picked up on this, too (link above) — is the filthy mattress set-up where the Mexican girl, Dani’s, virginity was (disputably) sacrificed by the NXIVM cult leader, KAR, who also tortured, branded and groomed them as sex slaves.

    The girls may have been led into the US on a “contract” made between the NXIVM cult leaders in Albany, NY and those in Mexico led by Emiliano Salinas, son of PRI party leader and much-despised former ousted Mexican Pres. Carlos Salinas.

  • This is one sick group! Dani is very brave to come out and expose what an ass Keith is and how incredibly stupid this group of women were/are… I guess insecurity along with stupidity and one will believe most anything. Shame on all of you for manipulating and exploiting this woman. As women, how could you do that to one of your own??!!! You guys just suck!

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